Posts by Anders Andersen

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Lurkers: A truth is either true, or it isn't. There is no in between.
by cappytan in
1. jw
2. friends
truth is absolute.

there is no such thing as 2=1 or 1=2.. if one starts out with the equation 2=1, one has already failed.. truth = truth.

you cannot change whether something is truth or not.. when the organization teaches one thing as a truth (ex.
Anders Andersen
About the absoluteness of truth: many people are mixing 'a truth' and 'an opinion': most people state their opinions as if their were facts, and thus truths.
E.g. 'this is beautiful' sounds like a facts and a truth, but really means 'This is beautiful to me'.
Truth is absolute in the sense that it does not change depending on who is talking. Opinions do change depending on who is talking.
If someone does not agree with an opinion, both parties are (or may be) right. Opinions should never be forced on someone.
If someone disagrees with a truth, they are plain wrong.
- God exists.
- FDS is all anointed.
- God disapproves of organ transplants
These are absolute in that they are either true or a false. The facts do not change based on who is talking (but the opinion about it does change).
So if someone changes their opinion on the truthfulness of these statements, they are either wrong now, or before, or both. The real truth of these statements never changed though.
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Our Letter to Our Family
by What Now? in
1. jw
2. experiences
our families have cut off contact with us for the last several months.

they found out that we were celebrating holidays with our non-witness family.

our families were our last tie to the organization, as our former friends stopped associating with us about 3 years ago.
Anders Andersen

Excellent letter.
If I need to write one (again), I'll be sure to take it as an example.
Thanks for sharing.
I hope your family really understands what you wrote...
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What is really your religion?
by Giordano in
1. watchtower
2. bible
since we seem to be growing with new members or lurkers here is a repeat of a test about where you are when it comes to religious beliefs or not:.

here isthe site and how i tested:.

http://www.findmyreligion.com/ start at number 1 for the religious test.. i just took the test and scored: .
Anders Andersen
James Brown,
I know for myself I am an atheist ;-)
- Theist = believes in God(s)
- A-theist = does not believe in God(s)
- Anti-theist = believes no God(s) exists and/or fights God(s)
I think one of the test can result in 'atheist', but I took multiple tests on both sites so I don't know which one :-p
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We are not a cult!
by Londo111 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i thought the writer here did a good job comparing the faqs of several high control groups.

hopefully this will be useful to someone out there.. http://thoughtsonthingsandstuff.com/we-are-not-a-cult/.
Anders Andersen

Interesting find!
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What is really your religion?
by Giordano in
1. watchtower
2. bible
since we seem to be growing with new members or lurkers here is a repeat of a test about where you are when it comes to religious beliefs or not:.

here isthe site and how i tested:.

http://www.findmyreligion.com/ start at number 1 for the religious test.. i just took the test and scored: .
Anders Andersen

I am an atheist, objectivist and some dude named John Stuart Mill apparently set up a philosophy that follows my principles ;-)
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"Defending the Good News" by J. J. Henderson
by Uncharted in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this book was published in 2010:.

defending the good news: the jehovahs witnesses plan to expand the first amendment.

it is partially based on an interview with an ex-jw, jerry bergman, and, besides other things, contains information on h. c. covington and his supreme court cases.
Anders Andersen

I am with prologos here.
WTBS denies any JW the same freedom of speech, religion, association, thought and medical treatment it fought for in the highest courts.
WTBS currently fights for the right to keep any conversation between a JW and an elder confidential as privileged, even they learn about reprehensibles crimes like child abuse.
And yet WTBS expects JW medical professionals who learn of an other JW who accepted blood to break the law, break confidentiality and report that to the elders.

F###ing hypocrites!
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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?
by Darkknight757 in
1. jw
2. experiences
so i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.

for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.

i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.
Anders Andersen

Kudos to you for waking up, and being a good husband :-)
I hope I didn't imply you weren't doing any of the good stuff before :-p
Seems like a lot of us here with a spouse still in....hope they will all wake up soon....
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WATCHTOWER LIBRARY 2015
by adamluis in
1. forum
2. announcements
we have ours.

i have attached pic.

waiting for my copy.
Anders Andersen

@LevelTPF,
In JW library app updates to magazines release 2 weeks ago are sometimes available.
They also have changed printed versions, e.g. yearly volume contained other text than same original monthly issue.
And the electronic version of older lit sometimes has different text than the original printed issue.
So, yes they do.
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Ex JW's - Which Christian denomination are you with now and why?
by Truthexplorer in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.

the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.

i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.
Anders Andersen

Happy atheist now. Maybe I would still believe something if JW didn't force me to look into everything I ever believed.
To me, all religion is based on thin air: a (personal) God for which no evidence exists, worshipped based on ancient texts written by people with clearly different morals than we currently have.
Of course, everyone is free to believe otherwise.
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How do you tell your spouse you no longer believe in God?
by Darkknight757 in
1. jw
2. experiences
so i was hoping to get some insight on this subject of telling your spouse that you no longer believe in god.

for two people who have been jehovahs witnesses for 20 years together, talking about this seems to be real hard for me.

i still pray with my wife before meals but that's about it.
Anders Andersen

Good point raised by some indeed, which I forgot to mention: be the best husband you can ever be.
Help your wife with everything, but especially the JW stuff if she wants.
Offer to join her for meetings, or drive her there if needed.
Cook on meeting evening, and clean the house if she is going and you are not.
It's possible your wife needs new reasons to continue loving you, so provide her with as many reasons as you can.
Why? Because (depending on how in your wife is), you are about to destroy her world. You leave her all alone forever in paradise. All alone as a spiritual widow.
She didn't sign up for this shit.
And, if you suddenly don't love God anymore, what about maybe you suddenly leave her???
She will feel insecure and need reassurance. This will be worse if she is born in....